Friday, August 29, 2008
GC vs Owyhee
In a rare moment of 9-5 nonbillable geology work I submit:
The four observations you list (added below in italics) as some of the differences between the Owyhee and GC intra-canyon lava dams are some of the exact same ones I note in the manuscript that is collecting dust on my desk at home.
1. Volume of lava vs. volume of water
2. Mode of entry: canyon rim cascade vs. tributary valley route
3. Severity of topography (vertical and lateral trajectory of lava incursion)
4. Proximity of volcanic vent to the canyon; abundance of pyroclastic material.
This is fabulous! I look forward to hearing more about these items and your other GC observations.
-Spud
Best Owyhee example of lava dam features
The Sand Springs Wash area on the Owyhee retains the best example of a lava dam in the field area. At this site, there are two lava flows from the Saddle Butte vent to the west. The overlying flow is separated from the underlying flow by a spectacularly well-developed lava delta with pillow-laden foresets that dip upvalley. The dam forebay is a turtle-back like feature with a 'carapace' of chilled lava. The surface of the older Saddle Butte lava upstream of the dam is covered with lacustrine mud which is capped with fluvial gravel.
Upstream of this site, the older Saddle Butte lava flow overlies Owyhee River gravel at the site of the Weeping Wall where a spring issues from the contact between the gravel and the lava. Upstream of Weeping Wall, the older Saddle Butte lava contains a sequence of lava deltas and subaerial lavas that suggest a complex interaction with the river.
Downstream, the eastern margin of the younger Saddle Butte flow is wasting away on a grand scale.
First insights from the Grand Canyon
Probably the most striking aspect of my recent trip down the Grand Canyon is the stark contrasts of the intracanyon lava flows and related response of the river there with those of the Owyhee.
- The lava stratigraphy in the GC is notably more complicated than the Owyhee.
- In GC the variability in lava textures and the facies variability of related volcaniclastic deposits is much greater. Some GC volcaniclastic deposits are downright bizarre looking to me.
- In several circumstances, there is strong evidence supporting the occurrence of catastrophic flooding in conjunction with the incursion of lava into the Grand Canyon (note photo above); whereas on the Owyhee, there is no clear evidence of this.
- In GC, there are few to no really good examples of lava deltas. The Owyhee has world class examples.
- In GC, the intracanyon flows are not associated with large-scale (post-emplacement) mass wasting processes. The Owyhee has some spectacular post-emplacement landsliding of lava flow remnants and, thus, continue to plague the river for 1000s of years.
Obvious questions: Why the profound differences? Why is the Owyhee so much easier to dam with lava than the Colorado?
1. Volume of lava vs. volume of water
2. Mode of entry: canyon rim cascade vs. tributary valley route
3. Severity of topography (vertical and lateral trajectory of lava incursion)
4. Proximity of volcanic vent to the canyon; abundance of pyroclastic material.
I am pretty sure it involves aspect of each of these factors. Stay tuned for more maunderings and some more details on the points above.
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
SHRIMP in the Owyhee?? Fire up the barbee mate!
I concur with Dr. Jerque. He refers to a plethora of field evidence that adds detail to the story presented in Ninad's work. I'd like to add that you may want to check out a paper from the Idaho State crowd of Beranek, Link, and Fanning (see below). This paper came out some time back and offers a few possible numbers for ages of big picture events in the region. If I recall correctly, the most Owyhee-relevant discussion items are based on only a few data points compared to other drainages studied and could be strengthened by additional analyses. Nontheless, it is pretty darn interesting to this spud farmer trapped in the concrete jungle.
| Miocene to Holocene landscape evolution of the western Snake River Plain region, Idaho: Using the SHRIMP detrital zircon provenance record to track eastward migration of the Yellowstone hotspot |
| Luke P. Beranek, Paul Karl Link, and C. Mark Fanning |
| Geological Society of America Bulletin Volume 118, Issue 9 (September 2006) pp. 1027–1050 DOI: 10.1130/B25896.1 |
-Spud
P.S. Dr. Jerque: I think we are on the same page about the Rytuba and Vander Meulen work. I did overstate its relevance in reference to the Now Voluminous (Once Dreaded) Rim Gravels but refer to it merely in the context that it provides evidence of a long-occurring interaction between volcanism, the fluvial system, and expansive sedimentation in the region. I wonder if it is even relevant to the latest question because "The inital influx of major fluvial systems into the volcanic field after about 14.5 Ma is reflected...."(see abstract)?
How old is the Owyhee?
Bogus Rim flow and underlying flows fill a surprisingly deep paleovalley that runs along the alignment of the modern canyon below iron point. Gravels are present at the base of the sequence in a few places (including possibly in the Owyhee Breaks area) and there are erosional intervals preserved between some of the flows. Not sure how well constrained the ages of the lowest flow (the 'lower Bogus lavas') are, but somewhere between 5 and 8 comes to mind (without looking anything up). There was a river flowing north before the Bogus lavas were emplaced. This river created the paleotopography in the Grassy Mountain Rhyolite and sediments before the first big barf of basalt flowed north. Based on the thickness of the Bogus Lavas in the Rinehart Canyon area, there were some deeply incised tributaries flowing into the river.
In terms of field evidence, the biggest influx of gravel occurs in conjunction with the end of the damming event caused by the Bogus Rim flow. I believe that evidence is mounting that a very large lake occupied the area upstream of where the Bogus Rim flow would have created a dam somewhere near Iron Point. Thus, the pre Bogus Rim river was probably a nearly full blown Owyhee. Possibly the full blown river developed in conjunction with surmounting the Bogus Rim dam? That should have been sometime after about 1.8 Ma. I recently collected a tephra from the lake sediments that I postulate were deposited into a Bogus Rim dammed lake. Dating that may be of some value.
Here is the geochronology from our area as reported by Ninad Bondre:
Some thoughts:
Despite the geochronology, I am thinking that the Owyhee Butte lava must predate the Bogus Bench lava. Field relations suggest that the gravel that pervasively overlies the Owyhee Butte lava is related to damming of the Owyhee River by the Bogus Bench (Rim) lava. I have not seen any gravel below the Owyhee Butte lava (forms the Artillery Rim), but Liz and I noted in July that there are hyaloclastite units in the upper parts of this package. Note also that the Bogus Bench (Rim...Brim?) lava has no gravel on top until you get a few km downstream from Iron Point. There, you find a 5-8 m thick deposit of locally derived, but rounded gravels. (I have shown pictures of this before in a previous post, but may add them again soon for emphasis). We know from multiple locations that the Bogus Rim lava flowed down a channel of the Owyhee River and overlies rounded gravel in various places. The local gravel pile likely relates to decommissioning of the dam.
http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/send-pdf.cgi/Bondre%20Ninad%20R.pdf?miami1164916380
Monday, August 4, 2008
Grand Hiatus for Dr Jerque
I will certainly provide a synopsis when I return.
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
What's up with upper-tier landslides?

There are lots of examples of upper-tier sliding along the river. Possibly the most impressive is right across from Iron Point. In that case, the failing area is pinned on rhyolite. There are several landslides in this general reach that sole-out on rhyolite. Not sure whether they occurred when the river was at the level or if they freaking cascading over the rhyolite into the river. Probably the former since the latter sounds so cool.

There are many examples where the upper-tier sliding seems to be associated with an underlying LWID (like a lava delta) or otherwise incompetent unit (like a lens of mud). In some places, the lava deltas are obviously linked to massive landlsiding; in others, they support massive cliffs. Maybe when you peel away the top, they lead to massive landslides. Probably not that simple. Any thoughts? Anyone?
Shockingly Voluminous (Once Dreaded) Rim Gravel, redux
In the context of our studies, this part of the record is only a glimpse into an ancient precursor drainage system. In fact, I think that a fair amount of the SV(OD)RG in our study area is related to lava damming events in the latest(?) Miocene and into the Pliocene (i.e. the Bogus Rim).Thus, is is possible that the SV(OD)RG represent blockage of an integrated / partially integrated Owyhee. Recall that the base of the Bogus lava sits on river gravel in various places between Iron Point and Birch Creek. I suspect it was the blockage of this system in the early Pliocene to late Miocene(?) that deposited the gravels that form a flat surface at 3900'. Subsequent and possibly sporadic incision through the gravel cover after the breach formed several discernible levels of gravel. This is directly analogous to the distribution of the much less widespread and voluminous gravels above the Quaternary blockages. It is that latter point that really pulls me in. Any counter arguments? Anyone?
In the figure below, I have pointed out some features of the gravel. I have approximated its MINIMUM extent using the snow-like pattern. Have also noted the problem with the Ice Axe as Bogus Rim (stay tuned for explanatory post on that one). This is a crude mock-up. A more formal figure will be forthcoming with lots of elevation data...(just got me a Trimble XH...arrived today!).
Monday, July 28, 2008
Reference related to the "Shockingly Voluminous" Rim Gravel
Here is a reference from my thesis that a very nice man (who once offered me a job in mineral exploration) turned me on to:
Rytuba, James J., and Vander Meulen, Dean B., 1991, Hot-Spring PreciousIf I remember correctly, I think it is pretty relevant to the dreadfully voluminous rim gravel and provides some corroboration of some of the things Dr. Jerque and others are finding in the field. Dr. Jerque may have a copy and I can scan you a copy sometime if you can't find it.
Metal Systems in the Lake Owyhee Volcanic Field, Oregon-Idaho;
in Raines, G.L., et al., 1991, Geology and Ore Deposits of the Great Basin,
Symposium Proceedings, USGS and Geological Society Nevada, Reno, Nevada,
Volume II, pp. 1085-1096.
Monday, July 21, 2008
Traverse Map, PKH, July 2008
Sunday, July 20, 2008
Summer 2008 on the Owyhee, Part 1
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
Chinese Landslide Dam Failure Flood in Action
Monday, June 9, 2008
Landslide Dam Failure in China


The significance of these photos to the average Yeehow is quite clear. The principal landslide dam following the recent major earthquake in China has failed. These photos show the breach and the incredibly cool draw-down tongue. For some cogent discussion about this event, check out the blog of Dr. David Petley at which I found the bottom two images and a lot of commentary: http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/Tuesday, June 3, 2008
Damming Ruminations by Brother Spud
Here are the figures from my thesis that relate to the last post I made on friday night. I hope they help you visualize some of what I described.
-Spud
Figure 15. Aerial photograph of river kilometers 37.5–39.5 showing presumed initial location of West Crater lava dam. The
Figure 16. Photograph of outcrop relations at river kilometer 39.25. The Saddle Butte lava appears to underlie the sediment lens in the center of the photograph. The head of the West Crater lava dam overlies the sediment lens and the Saddle Butte lava. Foreset beds of pillow lavas and hyaloclastite dip down to the right in this image. Several different passage zones (indicated by PZ) indicate the lake level rose during construction of the dam. The location of the paleovalley wall discussed in Figure 15 is indicated by a dashed ellipse. The lens of sediment interpreted to be paleo-Ryegrass Creek is visible in the center of the photograph.
Friday, May 30, 2008
Speculations and Declarations from the Spud
Oooohh Boy, Here are some ramblings for you to chew on, some of which I have been chewing on for some time (years). Dr. Jerque’s previous comments are in italics. Sorry to post a dry reply without any figures--I am having trouble pulling them into the blog--will try on Sunday. Figures 2, 15, and 16 are pretty relevant to the discussion.
The upper West Crater lava in the presumed abutment on river right does not have lava-delta deposits (wtf?). In the field, it looks like a dry flow. Why would water have not backed up in this area during the blockage? The contact of young WC on Old WC marks the perimeter of the 3400 ft lake. I suppose this part could have been dry initially as the flow continued in a generally downstream direction....
Yes, the youngest WC (above the 3400 ft contour) does not appear to have any evidence of lava-water interaction. But, the uppermost flow units immediately below 3380 ft surface do transition quickly (within a few meters) into a lava pillow delta via a passage zone (see Figure 2 in my thesis). I can think of at least two options for why the lava above the 3400 ft contour doesn’t have any pillows: 1) Lava was entering the river canyon at a much faster rate than the river discharge (and the rate of lake rise) such that the lava dam growth outpaced the rise of the reservoir; 2) the level of the reservoir stabilized at ~3370 ft (perhaps because a stable spillway developed adjacent to Pruitt’s Castle or because the dam was porous). In either case, if the full discharge of the river could seep through or sneak around the dam, the crest of the dam could grow uninhibited and not be within the reach of the water.
Option 1 is complicated by the fact that we know that the rate of dam construction and lake level rise was semi-episodic because of the presence of multiple passage zones (and accompanying subaerial lava) preserved within the dam.
In regards to Dr. Jerque’s questions about the timing of individual incursions of lava into the river and the total lifespan of the obstruction created, I think the dams are built quickly. The vents supplying lava to the intracanyon lava flows are monogenetic and probably have a life span of months, years, or perhaps tens of years, but not hundreds of years. From my understanding of Snake River Plain volcanism and the experience of those such as our p-mag expert, these lava flows could easily erupt, flow across the uplands, and build a dam in a few months or maybe several years. During that time, individual pulses of lava (flow units, cooling units, surges, etc.) added to the obstructions created by the first lavas in a tug of war battle with the rising lakes. The multiple (and rising in elevation) passage zones at Weeping Wall and WC at tell us this. The resulting dam is so geologically instantaneous that it makes sense to me to model it mostly as a single event. The details of the passage zone elevations, relative amounts of subaerial vs subaqueous lava, and volume of hyaloclastite tell us some of the juicy details of the event but in terms of the ~2 Ma history of the river available to us to model I would consider it one event. Even in the case of the SB dam, where there are two clearly different advances into the canyon (that potentially could be separated by a lot of time) we do nto see any different in age with the p-mag. We also do not see any fluvial deposits intercalated within the dam architecture that would suggest a long time interval (1000s to 10000s of years). What do you think?
One of my thesis’ objectives was to try to add data to, and refine, lava dam emplacement and breaching models (and the associated hazards) by trying to study how the rate of lava effusion into a river interacts with the river’s discharge and channel morphology to influence the structure and stability of lava dams. This objective was often overshadowed by the larger objective of just trying to figure out what he-ack is going on out there and distinguish the lava flows from one another but I do think that there is enough data to address the matter in the paper I am putting together on the lava flows.
Cheers,
Spud
Wednesday, May 28, 2008
Lava-dammed lakes in Owyhee Canyon
Here is a thought-provoking image that I created in Global Mapper this evening (click on it to enlarge). It shows the extent of a dam with a crest elevation of 3400 feet, which is the approximate elevation of the Saddle Butte 2 and West Crater Lava Dams (right, I couldn't get the blue from extending downstream, but you get the point). I have sketched in some likely dam locations...the Saddle Butte Dam is obvious because both abutments still exist. The West Crater dam, however, is a little harder to guess. The right (east) abutment is pretty obvious, but the left (west) one is not. In both cases, as we know, Rome Valley was inundated. Duh (in hindsight)Other points:
The upper West Crater lava in the presumed abutment on river right does not have lava-delta deposits (wtf?). In the field, it looks like a dry flow. Why would water have not backed up in this area during the blockage? The contact of young WC on Old WC marks the perimeter of the 3400 ft lake. I suppose this part could have been dry initially as the flow continued in a generally downstream direction....
In the case of each dam, the damming event that is most well preserved 'immediately' post-dates an intracanyon flow from the same vent. We don't have any direct evidence that these flows dammed the river...but they certainly may have, or did they? wtf?
Is it of any interest to the modeling and general conceptualization of the processes that the lava events that clearly dammed the river were damming a river that may still have been in the process of dealing with the previous lava incursion from the same vent? (thus not so long ago, relative to the damming event).
Any thoughts? Break down and post some comments or, maybe, your own diagram....
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
First view of Geologic Map in Google Earth
Wednesday, May 7, 2008
Shaded Relief Revelations
I used Globalmapper (more on that later) to quickly create this shaded relief image of the study area. Are most of the lava platforms that are so evident in this image related to lava-dams? The various volcanic structural forms in this image are really very striking. If it turns out that all or most of these features reflect late Neogene lava-water interaction, this is a fairly significant landscape-forming process in this region...the distribution of these features on the landscape record the progressive incision of the Owyhee River over a very long time, no?











